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CharlesT
ppp Pianississmo
- Nov 2016
- 31
- Northaampton UK
#1
HL822 Leslie
Hi, what are the views on UK value of a HL822? The specs for this speaker recommend it for the Hammond B-200. Earlier advice given here steered me towards a 822. Is the HL822 the same speaker and is it compatible with my E-45? Many thanks. CharlesT
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andyg
Moderator
- Feb 2005
- 13961
- Newhaven, UK
#2
I think we've already said that the 715/722/815 and 822 are all the same apart from the cabinet style, and yes, they will be plug and play with the E45. And the same goes for the 415 and 315. We also pointed out that ideally you'd have one of the top boxes to cope with the extra channel in the E45.
As for value, I've seen 822s go for next to nothing - some have had hard lives! Tobeycat is the man who knows for sure!
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com
Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
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tobeycat2007
ff Fortissimo
- Feb 2009
- 1455
- LANCASHIRE UK
#3
Good leslie if working but £100 is most unless its very good condition most are not ( ex club ), get some pics, presume its one on ebay at present.
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CharlesT
ppp Pianississmo
- Nov 2016
- 31
- Northaampton UK
#4
Chaps, thank you both for your patient replies and repeated advice. T'was the HL prefix and the maker's wording in the spec which caused me to have a frisson of doubt. Comment on value noted. CharlesT
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andyg
Moderator
- Feb 2005
- 13961
- Newhaven, UK
#5
HL = "Hammond Leslie" and the "22" is a nod to the classic Leslie 122.
A 722 has a bit of gold trim that the 715 does not have. As for 815/822, only the badge is different.
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com
Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1Comment
tobeycat2007
ff Fortissimo
- Feb 2009
- 1455
- LANCASHIRE UK
#6
Basically all same internally just cab different
722 = 715 + corner posts to match the b3000 model
822 = 815 no difference just that 822 usually sold with b200 organ, when introduced b300 just tended to sell 815 model with it.
One point to note is 2 different cabs for 815/822, early ones had grey vinly with cloth, later ones had all black finish, pics both on link.Comment
CharlesT
ppp Pianississmo
- Nov 2016
- 31
- Northaampton UK
#7
Chaps, again many thanks for all of this information. Having done some independent research as well as taking careful note of your helpful advice, I am persuaded that the Leslie speaker and its variants is a worthy candidate to be a specialist subject on Mastermind. Either of you would do well!
I have settled on a very decent HL822 for £100 and will be 'plugging and playing' at the weekend. Only minor downside is that with the rather unglossy look of the 822, the whole rig and I have been banished to the Games/hobby room, Out of sight as well as out of earshot so some sense in that.
Regards
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tobeycat2007
ff Fortissimo
- Feb 2009
- 1455
- LANCASHIRE UK
#8
Well done, if like sound it makes with yamaha organ then keep eyes pealed for decent 715/722, though they are harder to find. Have to post some pics when get it.
Make sure get cable with it, or wont be doing any plugging or playing with it.Last edited by tobeycat2007; 01-20-2017, 01:31 AM.
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CharlesT
ppp Pianississmo
- Nov 2016
- 31
- Northaampton UK
#9
Chaps, 822 plugged and playing. Sound good other than volume capacity a touch lower than expected. E-45 output louder than Leslie even when latter volume controls tweaked upwards. Leslie on its own sounds good.
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tobeycat2007
ff Fortissimo
- Feb 2009
- 1455
- LANCASHIRE UK
#10
The 822 should be very loud, are the pots right up on the back ??
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CharlesT
ppp Pianississmo
- Nov 2016
- 31
- Northaampton UK
#11
Yes, I tried turning them fully clockwise; but without noticeable effect. I have the screw heads set at about the 2 o'clock position as I did not want to exceed the recommended position given in the manual. Possibly time for a programme of caps replacement to regain full performance? If I isolate the E-45 speakers by inserting the headphone socket jack plug, the Leslie sound is pleasant albeit that I have then to set the organ volume pedal quite high. CharlesT
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tobeycat2007
ff Fortissimo
- Feb 2009
- 1455
- LANCASHIRE UK
#12
I'd try bit further up, played some on almost full they can usually take it designed to be driven hard. Should give organ a fuller sound anyway.
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CharlesT
ppp Pianississmo
- Nov 2016
- 31
- Northaampton UK
#13
I'll try that.
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andyg
Moderator
- Feb 2005
- 13961
- Newhaven, UK
#14
Originally posted by CharlesTView Post
Yes, I tried turning them fully clockwise; but without noticeable effect. I have the screw heads set at about the 2 o'clock position as I did not want to exceed the recommended position given in the manual. Possibly time for a programme of caps replacement to regain full performance? If I isolate the E-45 speakers by inserting the headphone socket jack plug, the Leslie sound is pleasant albeit that I have then to set the organ volume pedal quite high. CharlesT
Yes, it should really shout, so I think your idea about cap replacement is a good one. Crank it up in the meantime.
It's not what you play. It's not how you play. It's the fact that you're playing that counts.
New website now live - www.andrew-gilbert.com
Current instruments: Roland Atelier AT900 Platinum Edition, Yamaha Genos, Yamaha PSR-S970, Kawai K1m
Retired Organs: Lots! Kawai SR6 x 2, Hammond L122, T402, T500 x 2, X5. Conn Martinique and 652. Gulbransen 2102 Pacemaker. Kimball Temptation.
Retired Leslies, 147, 145 x 2, 760 x 2, 710, 415 x 2.
Retired synths: Korg 700, Roland SH1000, Jen Superstringer, Kawai S100F, Kawai S100P, Kawai K1Comment
CharlesT
ppp Pianississmo
- Nov 2016
- 31
- Northaampton UK
#15
Chaps, Having studied the circuit diagram and noted the long list of caps in the various assemblies, is it the case that they should all be replaced or a progressive and sensible sequence to be followed?
I don't need to rush at this as I am not too unhappy with the sound.
Luckily my No 1 son is a dab hand at this sort of stuff so I would be relying on him to do it properly - and safely.
CharlesTComment
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